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Title Ptolemaeus to his Father
Publications P.Mich. 8 511
More in series P.Mich.More in series P.Mich., vol. 8
Support/Dimensions Papyrus
Post-Concordance BL Entries VIII 215
Translations Metzger, Nachrichten aus dem Wüstensand (1974), Nr. 69
Origin Memphis oder Ptolemais Euergetis (Arsinoites)
More from Memphis oder Ptolemais Euergetis (Arsinoites)
Material Papyrus
Date 1. Hälfte III
More from the period between 201 CE and 250 CE
Print Illustrations Plate VII
Subjects Brief (privat); Ptolemaios an seinen Vater; Fest (Kult) für Sarapis; Gebühr; Geld; Holz; Transport mit Eseln
Images http://quod.lib.umich.edu/a/apis/x-2260...
License Creative Commons License © Heidelberger Gesamtverzeichnis der griechischen Papyrusurkunden Ägyptens. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.

Trismegistos: 30511 [source]

Publications P. Mich. 8 511 (Winter, John Garrett / Youtie, Herbert Chayyim; 1951)
Inv. no. Ann Arbor, Michigan University, Library P. 4686
Date AD 200 - 250
Language Greek
Provenance Egypt, 00c - Memphis[written]; Egypt, 00a - Karanis (Kom Aushim)[found]
People mentioned people

Catalog Record: michigan.apis.2260 [xml]

Title Private Letter
Author Ptolemaios
Summary Letter from Ptolemaios to his father, informing him that Ptolemaios has chosen to act as agoranomos for a cult banquet in honor of Sarapis and asking him to undertake for him the duty of providing five loads of wood for the banquet
Citations Winter JG-Youtie HC, PMich VIII, 511, 1951, Pl. VII -- BL VIII, 215 (bibliography) Totti M, Ausgewaehlte Texte der Isis- und Sarapis-Religion, 49, 1985
P.Mich.:8:511
Inv. Id P.Mich.inv. 4686
Support/Dimensions 1 papyrus ; 9.5 X 16.2xm
Condition nearly complete; a few traces of ink are all that remain of the address on the verso
Lines Recto - 22
Recto/Verso Source of description: Recto
Hands See electronic version of PMich VIII, 511
Origin Unknown place (perhaps Memphis, Memphite nome, or Arsinoe, Arsinoite nome?), province of Egypt
More from Unknown place (perhaps Memphis, Memphite nome, or Arsinoe, Arsinoite nome?), province of Egypt
Language Greek
Date (First half of the) IIIrd century A.D.
More from the period between 200 CE and 250 CE
Note (general) Location: Cairo
Note (general) Pub. status: Recto; Verso described
Note (related) Found with the archive of the praktor Sokrates son of Sarapion
Subjects -; Family; Feast; Documentary; Papyrus
Associated Names Ptolemaios; his (unnamed) father; his (unnamed) mother
License Creative Commons License This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License.

DDbDP transcription: p.mich.8.511 [xml]

III spc Karanis

Πτολεμαῖος τῷ πατρὶ χαίρειν.
γεινώσκιν(*) σε θέλω καὶ τὴν μη-
τέρα μου ὅτι σιωπητικοῦ τῆς
κλείνης(*) (δραχμαὶ) κδ καὶ τόπου ἄλλαι (δραχμαὶ) κβ.
5λογισάμενος οὖν ἦρκα ἀγορανο-
μίαν ἵ(*)να μήτε σιωπητικοῦ μήτε
τόπου δῶ, ἀλλὰ καὶ διπλᾶ μέρη λαμ-
βάνω καὶ χορηγῶ αὐτοῖς ξύλα.
ἀπʼ ἐντεῦθεν οὖν φρόντισον καὶ
10ἐὰν ἀναβῇς λήμψῃ τὸ ναῦλον
τῶν ὄνων. χρεία γάρ ἐστιν ε
γόμων. ἐὰν δὲ χρεία μου ἠν(*) πέμ-
ψεν(*) μοι φάσιν καὶ καταβήσομαι
μετὰ ἄλλων δύο φίλων ἵ(*)να μὴ σὺ
15κοπιᾷς. καὶ γὰρ ἀντιπῖν(*) ἄνθρωπος
οὐ δύναται τῷ κυρίωι Σαράπιδι. ἄλλη
γὰρ δίμηνός ἐστιν ὥς(*) τῆς
κλείνης(*). ἐὰν δύνῃ τῷ σῷ ὄνῳ
ἀνενέγκαι αὐτά ἀνένεγκον καὶ
20εὑρήσης(*) εἰς τὴν δαπάνην σου
τὰς δραχμάς.
(hand 2) ἔρρωσσο(*).

Apparatus


^ 2. l. γινώσκειν
^ 4. l. κλίνης
^ 6. ϊνα papyrus
^ 12. l. ᾖ
^ 12-13. l. πέμ |ψον
^ 14. ϊνα papyrus
^ 15. l. ἀντειπεῖν
^ 17. l. ἕως
^ 18. l. κλίνης
^ 20. l. εὑρήσεις
^ 22. l. ἔρρωσο

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APIS Translation (English)

Ptolemaios to his father, greeting. I want you and my mother to know that the novices' fee (siopetikon) for the banquet is 24 drachmai and for a place another 22 drachmai. After consideration, therefore, I have taken up the post of agoranomos so that I need not pay the novices' fee nor for a place; but also I receive double portions, and I provide them with wood. For this reason, then, give the matter thought, and if you come up you will receive the freightage for the donkeys. For there is a need of 5 loads. If you need me, send me word and I will come down with two friends as well in order that you may not tire yourself. For a man cannot refuse our lord Sarapis. It is another two months until the banquet. If you are able to bring up the wood with your donkey, bring it up, and you will get the money to cover your expense.;(2nd hand) Farewell.